Well socialist and communist don't recognize property.  I 
will agree with that Louise.  I am putting the feet to the fire 
and breathing the liberty that makes this country great!!!  
Sadly the socialist in here only recognize stealing and therefore 
are thieves.  They forget what this country of Justice and Liberty is.
The government is socialist.  The free market civil society has to keep 
the socialist government in check.  Socialism is any social/economic 
planning and this government has done that from the beginning.  
That's what governments DO.  These have always been their definitions.  
This is why the people in this country are to keep their liberties and 
keep the government in check but sadly this is the biggest Empire the 
world has ever had known on record.  People in this country don't 
know direct action anymore and turn a blind eye and give up their 
responsibilities and liberties everyday in this country.

Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louise Pryor" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:08:49 -0700
> 
> 
> Americans who hate their country, hate it with the naive ferocity of those
> who have no idea how the rest of the world operates. Having lived in a
> socialist monarchy, under a military dictatorship, in a tropical paradise,
> and in a democracy, I have a different view of America. The hope my father
> had, when he brought us here (legally) was of America as the land of
> promise. "In America anyone can be anything they want to be" was his
> understanding. He came here with $400 in his pocket and the promise of a
> job. And because what he believed is true, he found what he was looking for.
> 
> I grant that the American government is not perfect, and may be far from
> what the founding fathers had in mind, but it still has a foundation of
> freedom, whereby Nick can declare his "rights to personal property" - right
> out loud - with very little actual threat that anyone will come in and take
> it away from him - and plenty of recourse if anyone did.
> 
> "Rights to personal property", and "individual rights", are not something
> commonly recognized world wide. The rest of the world sees Americans, in
> general, as greedy,  spoiled children.
> 
> "I have my rights, sir, and I'm telling you, I intend to go on doing just
> what I do!" (the Onceler to the Lorax, Dr. Seuss)
> 
> Lu
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