On 10 Jun 2009 at 9:47, X Acto wrote: > Ron: > How exactly is the Gov. going to police your thoughts?
By enforcing hate speech laws with fines and/or jail terms. > I think thoughts about hating individuals or groups of individuals is an > individual > right, expressing those thoughts in literature or oration in public places is > not > a right. That is the line drawn, the public expression of the hatred of > individuals > or groups of individuals. > > Again, how is this unclear? Very clear. The problem is that your opinion not only abridges free speech but raises the issue of what constitutes "hate speech." > If you want to get together with like minded individuals, on private property > and speak about the hatred of certain indiviuals or groups of individuals > you are free to do so. > > How is this unclear? So it's OK to express hatred of terrorists privately but anyone who does so publicly should be jailed? Is that your position? > > ________________________________ > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:34:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider > > > > On 10 Jun 2009 at 8:25, X Acto wrote: > > > > > He did already Platt, > > > "hate speech against > > > > specific individuals or groups of individuals." > > > > > > differs from hate speech about ideas. > > > > > > See what I mean about reading what is written and jumping to conclusions? > > > > > > -Ron > > > > So is it your idea that someone can speak without having any idea of > > what she is saying? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:15:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider > > > > > > On 10 Jun 2009 at 17:03, Andre Broersen wrote: > > > > > > > Platt to Andre: > > > > > > > > Does your country have a law against hate speech? If so, do you support > > > > it? > > > > > > > > Andre: > > > > In Holland we enjoy freedom of speech and the hate may be expressed > > > > against > > > > any IDEA circulated. (recent verdict of the high court). This I fully > > > > support. The story is different when one begins to spout hate speech > > > > against > > > > specific individuals or groups of individuals. > > > > > > > > Nice diversion and good try but do answer the questions posed Platt. > > > > > > So you do support hate speech laws? Right? > > > > > > Can you explain the difference between an idea spoken and a hateful > > > idea spoken? > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
