On 10 Jun 2009 at 19:23, X Acto wrote: > Platt, > Jailed, you silly man. when did jail come into it?
How do you think laws are enforced? > what liberals call political correctness > is what your generation called having some manners in public. did you talk > like a sailor on leave in front of your girl or her freinds? heck no! you > would'nt get laid...... Your right except liberals coerce compliance with what they consider politically correct by legislating speech codes in schools and workplaces. There's a big difference between losing out with a date and losing a job. PC is a back door attack on free speech. Hate speech laws are an overt attack on free speech. > terrorists is a broad general term, covers alot. Terrorism is a better way to > hate, > thats an idea worthy of some fuckin hate, and I'm all with you. Individual > people? > dunno Platt. but the idea of terrorism I'm all friggin with ya freind. A terrorist is someone who engages in terrorism, disguising himself as a civilian, strapping on a bomb and blowing himself up in a crowded market, deliberately killing dozens if not hundreds of noncombatants. In the case of 9/11, terrorists hijacked airplanes and killed over 3,000. So yes, I hate terrorists. But, what is your answer to my question? :Does someone violate a hate speech law if he expresses hatred of terrorists in public like I just did? > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:29:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider > > On 10 Jun 2009 at 9:47, X Acto wrote: > > > Ron: > > How exactly is the Gov. going to police your thoughts? > > By enforcing hate speech laws with fines and/or jail terms. > > > I think thoughts about hating individuals or groups of individuals is an > > individual > > right, expressing those thoughts in literature or oration in public places > > is not > > a right. That is the line drawn, the public expression of the hatred of > > individuals > > or groups of individuals. > > > > Again, how is this unclear? > > Very clear. The problem is that your opinion not only abridges free > speech but raises the issue of what constitutes "hate speech." > > > If you want to get together with like minded individuals, on private > > property > > and speak about the hatred of certain indiviuals or groups of individuals > > you are free to do so. > > > > How is this unclear? > > So it's OK to express hatred of terrorists privately but anyone who does > so publicly should be jailed? Is that your position? > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:34:43 AM > > > Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider > > > > > > On 10 Jun 2009 at 8:25, X Acto wrote: > > > > > > > He did already Platt, > > > > "hate speech against > > > > > specific individuals or groups of individuals." > > > > > > > > differs from hate speech about ideas. > > > > > > > > See what I mean about reading what is written and jumping to > > > > conclusions? > > > > > > > > -Ron > > > > > > So is it your idea that someone can speak without having any idea of > > > what she is saying? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:15:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider > > > > > > > > On 10 Jun 2009 at 17:03, Andre Broersen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Platt to Andre: > > > > > > > > > > Does your country have a law against hate speech? If so, do you > > > > > support it? > > > > > > > > > > Andre: > > > > > In Holland we enjoy freedom of speech and the hate may be expressed > > > > > against > > > > > any IDEA circulated. (recent verdict of the high court). This I fully > > > > > support. The story is different when one begins to spout hate speech > > > > > against > > > > > specific individuals or groups of individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Nice diversion and good try but do answer the questions posed Platt. > > > > > > > > So you do support hate speech laws? Right? > > > > > > > > Can you explain the difference between an idea spoken and a hateful > > > > idea spoken? > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
