> >[Marsha] > >While you are busy patting yourself on the back, I notice many > >peoples (women and children) in the world are starving and dying, and > >many others (men) are fighting and killing each other for power to > >decide on which filters will define "reality". The whole thing seems > >a failure. > > > > [Krimel] > > Assigning Quality on the basis of gender makes about as much sense to me
> > as measuring it via body count. Is that what that makes it easier for > > you to see nothing but failure. > >Marsha >I get very few opportunities to find the mother's voice inside of >me. You may not understand what I am about to suggest, but so be >it. Do you think women, who has developed and carried in their womb >for nine months, nursed, nurtured and taught a child, or many >children, might assign quality different from a man? Because I tell >you that when I see a mother, even on the television, with a dead and >blood smeared child in her arms, or holding an emaciated starving >baby, I experience great pain. I suggest to you that women DO assign >quality in a different way than men. > >[Krimel] >I was tempted to just dismiss this as whiney crap. But on reflection is >seemed more like stupid whiney craps so I decided to address it. Do women >see things differently than men? >Duh? >Yes! > >Do children see things differently than adults? >Do Americans see things differently than the French? >Does they guy over there see things differently that that other guy over >there? > >These are stupid questions. >Of course people see things differently. >Everybody assigns Quality differently than everybody else. > >Marsha >The type of failure I sighted above is much bigger, and makes puny >the success of the computer or going to the moon. And that >understanding makes women a superior judge of quality. >[Krimel] >I would think that as a mother you would be grateful for the technology > that helped make sure you and your infant didn't died in childbirth. I do > tend to see that as an improvement more significant than the computer. But > I am a glass half full kind of guy. > Marsha The subject was the difference in assigning quality based on gender. You seemed to think it made no difference. I do think it does and decided to say so. How about all those that do die at childbirth? "October 15, 2008 - Infant deaths in the United States declined 2 percent in 2006, government researchers reported Wednesday, but the rate still remains well above that of most other industrialized countries and is one of many indicators suggesting that Americans pay more but get less from their health care system. ... "Infant mortality and our comparison with the rest of the world continue to be an embarrassment to the United States," said Grace-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute, a conservative research organization." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/health/16infant.html?_r=1 [Krimel] Gender? Tallies of dead babies and their Moms? Those are just concepts. What difference could they possibly make to you? Shouldn't you be trying to get rid of them somehow? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
