All are different forms of energy, or inclusive of numerous energies. 
Quality, for example, is the "value force." Dynamic Quality is the 
"creative force." Physical energy includes strong and weak atomic 
forces. Etc, etc.


On 21 Jun 2009 at 12:44, Krimel wrote:

> [Platt]
> It doesn't. Psychic experience or energy is as universal as cosmic 
> consciousness.  Experience, consciousness, physic energy, reality, 
> Quality, "is," -- all names for the same thing.
> 
> [Krimel]
> Interesting how you just slide "consciousness" and "physic (sic) energy".
> Why do you think they merit inclusion on your list? I don't think they are
> concepts of the same type as experience, reality and Quality. 
> 
> I would say that consciousness and either psychic of physical energy are
> concepts of an entirely different sort.
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Jun 2009 at 7:24, gav wrote:
> 
> > 
> > why transduce experience into something else and then back into
> experience.
> > how does 'psychic energy' differ from experience?
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 21/6/09, Platt Holden <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Platt Holden <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Received: Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 10:50 PM
> > > How about experience begins with
> > > transduction of psychic energy into neural
> > > impulses, psychic referring to cosmic consciousness with
> > > values inherent.
> > > 
> > > Platt
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:32 AM, <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > [Krimel]
> > > > > experience BEGINS with transduction of energy
> > > into
> > > > > neural impulses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   [gav]
> > > > > experience cannot begin with 'transduction of
> > > energy into neural
> > > > > impulses', because 'transduction of energy into
> > > neural impulses' is a
> > > > > concept *derived from experience* as all concepts
> > > necessarily are
> > > >
> > > >   I think what Krimel means is that the
> > > experience of EACH INDIVIDUAL
> > > > " BEGINS with transduction of energy into neural
> > > impulses".
> > > > 'transduction of energy into neural impulses' is a
> > > concept derived from
> > > > experience, but the concept was around before most of
> > > us began
> > > > experiencing.
> > > > Craig
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