At 07:43 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
Marsha to Krimel:
I did not state anything was about Bo, but the idea that the
intellectual level is lost in an endless battle of subject and object
reasoning. Science is about subjects discovering truth by dividing,
defining and knowing objects. A tool that may be useful, or harmful,
depending on the hearts of the individual's who use it.
Andre:
Hi Krimel, Marsha (thank you for your kinds words re my recovery...I am
working on it).
The tool science uses to divide and discover etc, are wonderful. They have
proved their worth but you reminded me of a passage I read recently in a
wonderful book ( Anthony, I am forever grateful to you for attending me to
it). It says:
'My belief is simply this: paradoxes tap directly into the non-algorithmic
depth of knowing. As do poetry and music.The use of non-algorithmic knowing
does not mean that one has to abandon science. Just the reverse. Philosopher
of science Thomas Kuhn has pointed out [and Pirsig has stated this likewise]
that almost all the great advances in science have come about not from logic
or reason but from 'Eureka' moments- flashes of insight that are at the root
indistinguishable from the moments of creative inspiration that fire
music,literature or art. After the instantaneous synthesis of a deep insight
the crafting of a detailed scientific theory is only a sophisticated
'mopping up' operation. Logic is thus a TOOL of insight, not its GUIDE.
If scientific and artistic insights both stem from non algorithmic
consciousness ( Pirsig argues this, though I am unsure how he feels about
the use of concept 'consciousness'...anyone??) then those aesthetic
qualities that cluster around the word 'beautiful' should have some guiding
role in our quest for truth. Many scientists now believe this'
(Darryl Reanney, 'Music of the Mind' p 11, my emphasis).
My understanding is thus that the dividing, discovering, dissecting etc is
all nice and logic and reason as tools are great. But, after the discovery,
to then use the same tools to explain things within a greater
(non-scientific) context is wrong and short-sighted.
IMHO
Hi Andre,
When I was a very little girl I would make formulas concocted of
whatever I could find to put into the same bottle. Nothing was too
sacred for my experimentation. Today I seem to be following the same
strategy with my mind: from quantum mechanics to 'not this, not
that'. At the moment the results are mostly peals of laughter, but
then I love to laugh...
Marsha
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