Gav, I think that is the message, not the avoidance of suffering. it is said that desire is the root of suffering the universe is composed of desire/
it only stands to reason that to master desire, is the key. to live is to desire, to desire to suffer. thus life is suffering wisdom comes not from the avoidance of desire, not from avoiding attachment , but the art of how we choose to suffer. thus the art of how we choose to desire. -Ron ________________________________ From: gav <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:00:56 PM Subject: [MD] suffering maybe we give suffering a bad wrap.... i know from my experience that suffering is often swept under the carpet - hidden. "i'm alright mate". a couple of years ago i was going through a tough time - i had broken up with bel (whom some of you know) and i was without a home, couch-surfing, 3 days here, 3 days there. i was disorientated, extremely sad, and it began to affect my physical health. you see i had no-one to just be totally honest with. i tried my folks but they couldn't go there - *they didn't want to see me suffer*. my angelic sister tried but she thought i should go on anti-depressants - she couldn't handle my sadness either. my friends, well, my best friend was living in korea at the time and the rest of them dealt with pain the ethanolic way...i following suit regularly. but that was evasion. it came back to bel, now married to someone else (with whom she is now expeting twins i am overjoyed to say)...only she knew that i was okay, fundamentally, and just needed to get it out. she gave me that permission one afternoon at my parents place. i broke. i just fell apart. and if bel hadn't been there my parents may have got out the straitjacket. instead she let me get snotty and blubber and she took me into town and she found me somewhere to live, and that apogee, or perhaps nadir depending on how you look at it, was the breakthrough. by being allowed to suffer, to suffer freely, i released the energy that was making me ill, and i reconnected with the world, with new people, one of whom i still live with now. it was suffering, beautiful, painful suffering that tore down my walls and let people back in. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
