At 01:40 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
[Marsha] "What the Metaphysics of Quality adds to James' pragmatism and his radical empiricism is the idea that the primal reality from which subjects and objects spring is value. By doing so it seems to unite pragmatism and radical empiricism into a single fabric. Value, the pragmatic test of truth, is also the primary empirical experience. The Metaphysics of Quality says pure experience is value. Experience which is not valued is not experienced. The two are the same. This is where value fits. Value is not at the tail-end of a series of superficial scientific deductions that puts it somewhere in a mysterious undetermined location in the cortex of the brain. Value is at the very front of the empirical procession." (LILA, Chapter 29)[Krimel] The problem with this is that Values are perceived. They are our emotions, Being moved by our values is a response to our emotions. I think it is bad mojo to claim that emotion is the primary stuff of reality.
Where is the word 'emotions' in that paragraph? What do you mean by emotions? And please remember when talking about perceptions, along with seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, touching, I include thinking. Are you equating experience and value and emotion? That may be your interpretation, but where does RMP equate these three?
Also I think it is very different to say that an understanding of subject, objects or anything else spring from Value and quite another to have crap just popping in out of nowhere as a product of experience.
Quality (Value) comes before subject and object. I don't know where "an understanding of subject, objects" comes from? Understanding???
I would totally agree that emotional commitment is required for decision making but that does not make it the primal metaphysical existent.
Emotional commitment? I think I do not understand your use of the word 'emotion'.
It is indeed on the leading edge of experience. We do not have enough time to respond to the environment on the basis of reason. If our species had begun that way, our line would have died out long ago. Rational thinking is a secondary process that is added to the capacities of primates of our lineage. It serves to evaluate, refine and improve actions based purely on experience or emotion. Rational concepts are secondary but mighty useful.
Sorry Krimel, but I'm still in the mode that says there is the undifferentiated and the projected, or DQ and static patterns. So simple.
Actually, I posted paragraph because I think RMP has gone beyond synaptic activity and James.
Marsha _____________ "He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." (Friedrich von Schiller)
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