I turn on my stove & it heats up.    You back into my stove & jump away. 
From my perspective the heat made you jump away before you realized why, 
but not before I realized why.     



  [Steve] 

> DQ as pre-intellectual makes sense from the empirical perspective 
> where time itself is not a given but derived from experience. From 
> this perspective ideas come first 
This seems contradictory.   If the empirical perspective is 
“pre-intellectual”, then how can it be a perspective where 
“ideas come first”? Craig 


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