KO, Ian, Platt and Lu, I thought it best to stay out of this one because I can sense getting into trouble. I already did a little bit. Remember the part in ZAMM when DeWeese really wanted the Narrator to condemn those rotisserie instruction manual? But he couldn't? It was a bit like that yesterday when Lu looked up this woman's art on her web page and went off on her. "Look at this, this isn't art."
But I liked it. I didn't spend more than a few cursory glances but some of those were highly evocative and moving. Simple lines can be so expressive sometimes and I like the juxtaposition of text and image in moving ways. Some stuff did look fairly slapdash, but I intuit a social force at work in the career of an artist, wherein with a bit of fame and popularity her paintings sell for the same reason autographed pictures sell - reputation and celebrity convey a social value beyond the merely artistic. And is this not also a species of good? For it financially helps a worthy artist who has scaled the peak. Lu is always jealous of artistic success that lacks a certain craftsmanship. And that distinction between art and craftsmanship was what lured me back to the dialogue like a fat man to his fridge when he knows there is beer in there. Lu said she remembered the dialogue with Arlo, but thought we concluded that art and craftsmanship are the same. I said, no, Arlo says that but I disagree. There is such a plain difference to me between faithful representation through craft, and intellectual creation using craft - it's like static quality and dynamic quality standing in such sharp juxtaposition that we can almost see the labels popping out of their differing molecular structures. This is even more obvious to me after reading Schlain's Art and Physics and seeing how dynamic intellect has historically evolved in art - that is, non-linguistic conceptualization of truth - prior to the more formal symbolic logic of math and words. This is fascinating to me because it puts art in a whole different category than mere aesthetic appreciation. It also fascinates me in contemplating that this pre-linguistic conceptualization might be a key to our differing interpretations of "pure experience". But that's a completely different thread. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
