Hi Matt, John, DMB, all

you said:
I would just add that Steve's puzzlement on why metaphysics
is impossible to avoid relies on a subtle disparity between
what Steve would like to call metaphysics (following more in
line with Rorty's usage) and what John would like to call
metaphysics (following more in line with Pirsig's usage).

Steve:
I think there is a difference in the way we are using to the term, and I could easily be wrong about how metaphysics has traditionally been thought of since I'm not expert on philosophy, but I tend to think that something different is going on with Pirsig other than metaphysics as usual. We have Pirsig actually saying that he has created a new metaphysics! Has anyone else ever made that claim? Pirsig has offered us polar coordinates (MOQ) with the suggestion that we may find it better than rectangular coordinates (SOM), while the idea of metaphysics had always, as far as I know, precluded the idea that there even can be more than one metaphysics. As far as I know, metaphysics is not taken to be the creation of ways of talking about reality/experience but the search for THE way of talking about it, i.e. trying to find the language in which the universe itself demands to be spoken about and to find the correct sentences that the universe demands be said about it.

Is not Pirsig then using the word "metaphysics" in an ironistic way in contrast with the search for such Truth? I'd like to read him as an ironist anyway.

Best,
Steve
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