Hi Bo, I wasn't particularly commenting on your idea of the Lorentz & SOM/MOQ - I can't see it - you were just using it as a metaphorical parallel ? - Like a Copernican revolution ?
Anyway, Ron got the point - the other part of the wiki quote (not the bit you re-quote here) was simply wrong. The maths may "work" but it doesn't mean they are right. Ian On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Ian and Ron > > 14 Aug. Ian : > >> Bo, you sir, are the master of misinformation and a hack. Simply >> muck-spreading a meme. > > Thanks a lot, but you bark up the wrong tree. I haven't said a thing > about Relativity's weirdness, just that the Lorentz equations are used > for switching between Newton physics and Relativity and this is a fact > regardless of what Ron says. He quoted Wiki himself: > > "In physics, the Lorentz transformation precisely describes > how, according to the theory of special relativity, two observers' > varying measurements of space and time can be converted > into each other's frame of reference ....." > > and it says exactly that even "precisely". Today's physicists do this > without stopping to think about relativistic weirdness seen from > Newtonian grounds and vice versa, but when conditions are extreme > only the former calculations work, elsewhere the Newtonian ditto does > the job. It brings space crafts to their destinies, but when it comes to > black holes and such ... alas. There is something similar regarding > Quantum Physics and Newton's, but I'm a bit "rusty" here. > > The assertion that the SOL is a "Lorentz transformation" between > SOM and MOQ (between MOQ and its intellectual level) is valid. > Pirsig's (inorg.+ bio.=objects ..etc.) is a formula to link SOM and the > MOQ, but it fails on several points ... and when Pirsig got more and > more problems with this he just skipped SOM. But that's impossible, > SOM or intellect is our static abode, only when things gets "extreme" > we must apply the MOQ and then some transformation procedure is > necessary. > > Bodvar > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
