[John]
That rings about as convincing as your protestation that a politician would use distortive and excessive rhetoric.

[Arlo]
Quite the cynic. I hold out that they should do better. You seem to accept their pandering as just how it is. Fair enough. Like I said, I, too, would almost expect that from Russell. But my point all along was "here?!"

Again, as I said, Russell KNEW about Bush's speech. His words pandered to fear in the goal of inciting misinformed voters to anger. Plain and simple.

And you don't find that morally evil? I mean, it might be "the way it is", but does that make it "okay"?

Apparently it does. Okay, so we can't hold people accountable for using distortive and inciting rhetoric when they talk politics. We can't hold politicians who KNOW that the 2003 Medicare Act provides the same end-of-life counseling as Obama's plan, because after all they are politicians. When you see angry mobs at town halls or outside the capitol, waiving swastikas because they believe that ONLY totalitarian dictators give school addresses, well, that's just fine and dandy. Nothing to notice there. Oh well.

Sorry, John, we are gonna have to agree to disagree about this. I find such pandering morally revolting. From BOTH sides. And I certainly find it revolting to hear it squawked here.

[John]
Ok Arlo, if actual violence occurs I will definitely brand his rhetoric "evil".

[Arlo]
Evil only occurs when the incited mob actually does something violent, eh? Has nothing to do with the rhetoric that whipped up the mob in the first place?

[John]
The way to reason with intellectual subversive rhetoric is using intellectually subversive rhetoric.

[Arlo]
You can't reason with it, the only way to deal with it is to call it out for what it is. YOU try to reason with it. Knock yourself out. See how far that gets you.

[John]
There must be some sort of degenerate glee in doing so. I know there is for me.

[Arlo]
Jeez, maybe if I jumped in every time Platt squawked some talk-radio nonsense. Hell, I ignored the first several "death panels", but eventually had to call it out. I don't get glee from that, I do get some satisfaction in knowing that I am not being intellectually dishonest (how I would feel) and just ignoring it all the time.

[John]
I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you to discover excessive and inflammatory rhetoric on this fine forum with all these noble onlookers lurking on.

[Arlo]
Yeah, you are quite the cynic. Guess I do have higher expectations. Oh well.

[John]
I was referring back to our first debate on the love of dog, for the love of dog.

[Arlo]
Totally forgot about that. Too busy with my plans to homogenize the world, kill everyone who thinks differently than I do, and develop my cloning machine. You know how absent minded us anti-freedom totalitarian dictators can be, after all.

[John]
Yeah, I thought that was kinda obvious too.  So we must be in agreement.

[Arlo]
I don't think we are in much agreement, but no matter...



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