[John to Mark]
> However, the Allah that can be named is not the real Allah, so 
> worship always evolves into idolatry.

[Arlo]
> Just jumping in with agreement, John, and I think this is, in fact, a 
> very important statement. Indeed, "the Allah that can be named is 
> not the real Allah" is the same thing as what I said earlier, 
> "the moment you speak you create incompleteness". 
. 
I can't see you're in agreement since John is talking about what's 
REAL & Arlo is talking about what is COMPLETE, which is not the 
same thing. 
Let's change the example from Allah, since no one knows 
if he is real or a fictional character from the Koran. 
Consider the tree outside my window:  when I look, I see the real 
tree but not the complete tree (e.g., I don't see the other side 
of the tree or the inside of the tree.)  Similarly, when I talk 
about the tree, I'm talking about the real tree, even if I don't 
completely know everything about the tree. 





Craig    
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