PLatt and Bodvar's reaction: And so it is with the MOQ. It's intellectual pattern contained in ZAMM and Lila is the map at the intellectual level. Dynamic quality experience is the territory. Many focus on the former and call it the MOQ. Bo focuses on the latter and calls it the MOQ. Like the heads and tails of a coin, both are right.
Hmmm, lets see what Andre says. Andre maintains that indeed it is in this sense that the intellectual level is lying. One is that it objectifies/stultifies/halts reality (experience)...captures it in a snapshot/photograph. The other is that, as soon as intellect is involved...you have missed it. It has to do with the time-lapse Pirsig talks about between experience and realising you have the experience. But this doesn't sit nicely with me. PLatt: 'As a description of reality it's a static intellectual pattern. As the central reality it's Dynamic -- beyond words.' (Pirsig) Andre: So it seems. Bodvar: Maps can change terrain, words can alter reality, symbols can kill ... those who believe in it and that's the point. Andre: And terrains change maps, and reality alters words and symbols can bind because nothing is fixed/permanent. But some things appear more pervasive and permanent than others. Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
