> steve: Faith: The notion that the world as it is now is perfect and that
> changing it would only ruin it.
>
> gav: i disagree here. i would say that faith is implicitly aware that you
> can't ruin perfection - you can only peturb it.
matt: yeah--you can't ruin _perfection itself_, that would be imperfect, but
steve's point is that the notion that the world-is-a-perfection is the problem.
that's why change is seen as bad, the perturbations as bad. and, along a
different angle, not being able to actually effect a perfection--your
point--breeds leibnizian thoughts of theodicy: this world is the best of all
possible worlds, which voltaire laughed at as absurd and the rest of us should
look at as a simplisitic apology of worseness that ameliorates the impetus to
change it.
it punishes and supresses our DQ sense
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