John, It seems to be a distinction of static choice and dynamic choice. Ithink what Arlo objects to is implying a static choice on a dynamic. To apply static definable meaning to an indefinable dynamic. Platt insists that MoQ defines the indefinable, the knowing of "why". Arlo disagrees and I think, rightly so. Pragmatically however if projecting ultimate meaning on the indefinable dynamic has meaning for him, then it has meaning for him, but as Arlo points out, thats not really where Pirsig is pointing with his concept of dynamic quality. The most difficult thing, as stated before is accepting the only fact there is, we can not statically "know" the dynamic, therefore the spirit of the MoQ is "semper fidelis" in experience, situational awareness.
-Ron ----- Original Message ---- From: John Carl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 1:46:15 PM Subject: [MD] Freedom and the Good I don't quite get Arlo's complaint against Platt, how can having a cosmically intrinsic directional pull toward betterness impinge upon freedom? Freedom isn't something dependent upon anything outside myself, I can choose to push against gravity and walk on two legs, or just let my body fall and flop all over the place, whatever. Likewise the cosmos being composed of morality doesn't force me to be good. I'd say just the opposite of constraint, it offers a force to push against, a choice to be made. A cosmos without quality is like a rollercoaster in space - meaningless. Does Arlo complain against gravity because it forbids him from floating off into the aether? Choice spells more freedom, not less. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
