Hi John, Ron, Andre, 

I think John is on to something. Pirsig calls Quality a moral force and 
refers to the creative power of the Dynamic force a number of times. 
Since it's a natural force, it's like gravity and other fundamental forces of 
the cosmos. To argue that no one can precisely measure this force is 
not to prove it doesn't exist. What proves it does exist is that the world 
would be unrecognizable without it. 

Platt   



On 20 Nov 2009 at 22:20, Andre Broersen wrote:

> John to Ron:
> 
> My analogy is that the DQ/sq dichotomy is analogous to up/down of gravity.
> 
> Now, is gravity "defined"?  No,  it's not.  We don't really understand
> gravity, when it comes right down to it.  Where is this force?  What is it
> made of and how does it work?  Nobody knows.  All we know is how it behaves.
> 
> Andre:
> What is love?
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