John to Ron:

My analogy is that the DQ/sq dichotomy is analogous to up/down of gravity.

Now, is gravity "defined"?  No,  it's not.  We don't really understand
gravity, when it comes right down to it.  Where is this force?  What is it
made of and how does it work?  Nobody knows.  All we know is how it behaves.

Andre:
What is love?
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