Hi Andre, I agree with the blur. For me a concept is an experience. Mark
On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:29:14 AM, "X Acto" <[email protected]> wrote: From: "X Acto" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MD] British Emergentism Date: November 24, 2009 5:29:14 AM PST To: [email protected] ----- Original Message ---- From: Andre Broersen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 2:26:23 AM Subject: Re: [MD] British Emergentism Marsha to Andre: I very much agree with Bo that the Intellectual Level is comprised of subject/object patterns, and I agree that there should be an emerging Quality Level above the Intellectual Level. Andre: Hello Marsha. I am probably daft but I do not understand this. What do you mean by 'Quality Level'? Aren't we bathing in Quality as it is? It reminds me of the suggestion: we are all enlightened already but we do not realise it. Also, in the MoQ the 'levels' are said to be 'discrete'. Can Quality be this? Can Quality be 'levelled'? I agree with you that the 'MoQ is an intellectual static pattern of value'. As soon as you think,write,say,name Quality it has become static. 'The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name'. Ron: Hello Andre, certainly Bo will simply color your statement as the SOM language/reality restatement of subject/object. The importance is the realization of the distinction between concepts and experience. A pertanant pitfall that Bo seems to dance in and out of without bothering to take into account in his formulations. In my recent conversation with Matt, we have been exploring this distinction especially by what we mean by using the term "experience". Aristotle in "Metaphysics" terms experience as composed of memory. The point being that the line between the two is considerably blurred. I think this is where Bo is coming from but his penchant for superiority gets in his way of any clear explaination of his point of view . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
