If I may jump in Andre.  To use your analogy, a clock is used to
measure the passage of time.  The ticking of the clock represents
time.  Without time there would be no clock.  

Existence and the levels are used to measure Quality.  The way
things appear represents the presence of Quality.  Without
Quality there would be no us.

If Quality has presence and direction, why not call it a force?

Mark

On Nov 29, 2009, at 12:25:21 PM, "Andre Broersen" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
From:   "Andre Broersen" <[email protected]>
Subject:    Re: [MD] Freedom and the Good
Date:   November 29, 2009 12:25:21 PM PST
To: [email protected]
Platt to Andre:
Hey Andre,

What's your point?

Andre:
My point is that the boy asks 'What makes it tick? He is looking for
'time' to get him to 'explain' the workings of the clock.
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