[Mark]: Yes, abduction. The intellect follows intent by about 0.3 seconds. This has been measured through electrophysiology. Therefore, when you make an intellectual decision, it has already been made 0.3 seconds before. This is why I say the intellect is a recorder. The intellect happens after the real intent has already been done. This is the hunch. Most hunches do not reach the intellect because we do not recognize them, or are too busy thinking in retrospect. "Trust your instinct" is another. The mind knows much more than the intellect. It captures every detail of the environment. The intellect must simplify it for communication. I believe we place way too much emphasis on this time delayed recorder. This is where Quality occurs as Pirsig would say. It is not somewhere else, it is within us.
This Intent is the basis for everything, in everything, and the driving force. On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:47:41 AM, "Arlo Bensinger" <[email protected]> wrote: From: "Arlo Bensinger" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MD] Is Quality Different from (Mother) Nature? Date: November 30, 2009 8:47:41 AM PST To: [email protected] [John] I would addendumize further: we do not deduce Quality, we induce it it. [Arlo] Would you consider that we "abduce" it? From Wikipedia: "Abduction is a method of logical inference introduced by Charles Sanders Peirce which comes prior to induction and deduction for which the colloquial name is to have a "hunch". Abductive reasoning starts when an inquirer considers of a set of seemingly unrelated facts, armed with an intuition that they are somehow connected. The term abduction is commonly presumed to mean the same thing as hypothesis; however, an abduction is actually the process of inference that produces a hypothesis as its end result" Tie to ZMM: "The formation of hypotheses is the most mysterious of all the categories of scientific method. Where they come from, no one knows. A person is sitting somewhere, minding his own business, and suddenly...flash!...he understands something he didn't understand before. Until it's tested the hypothesis isn't truth. For the tests aren't its source. Its source is somewhere else. Einstein had said: Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified and intelligible picture of the world. He then tries to some extent to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, and thus to overcome it -- .He makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life in order to find in this way the peace and serenity which he cannot find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience -- .The supreme task...is to arrive at those universal elementary laws from which the cosmos can be built up by pure deduction. There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition, resting on sympathetic understanding of experience, can reach them -- .Intuition? Sympathy? Strange words for the origin of scientific knowledge." Some snippets from Umberto Eco's "The Sign of Three": "(Quoting Peirce).. there can be no reasonable doubt that man's mind, having been developed under the influence of the laws of nature, for that reason naturally thinks somewhat after nature's pattern' (Peirce). 'It is evident,' he writes, 'that unless man has some inward light tending to make his guesses... much more than they would be by mere chance, the human race would long ago have been extirpated for its utter incapacity in the struggles for existence... ' (Peirce). In addition to the principle that the human mind is, as a result of natural evolutionary processes, predisposed to guessing correctly about the world, Peirce proposes a second conjectural principle to partially explain the phenomenon of guessing, namely that 'we often derive from observation strong intimations of truth, without being able to specify what were the circumstances we had observed which conveyed those intimations' (Peirce). ... The different elements of a hypothesis are in our minds before we are conscious of entertaining it, "but it is the idea of putting together what we had never before dreamed of putting together which flashes the new suggestion before our contemplation' (Peirce) ... Abduction.. is an instinct which relies upon unconscious perception of connections between aspects of the world..." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
