John,
Excellent points and one that I feel falls within the context of 
environmentalism itself. But certainly in my own opinion any
environmentalism is prefferable to none at all.
Ho!
-Ron



----- Original Message ----
From: John Carl <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 11:26:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost

Ron,

The deadly effect of environmentalism is the objectification of man's
relationship with nature into a human-centered values system - with long
range repercussions undreamt of at the outset.  This was Deep Ecology's
insight into SOM's subsuming of values.

Even in a shallow way, if we look at global warming as a real effect of
man's planetary dominance, then we could see it as the planet's defensive
immune system attacking the human cancer which is growing beyond natural
limits.  Therefore, society's urge to mitigate the fever without really
curing the disease is a far worse problem than having to relocate coastal
population centers further north.

imo,

John


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:38 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

> What are the deadly consequences of environmentalism?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:36:13 AM
> Subject: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
>
> Hi All:
>
> One of the main messages of the MOQ is SOM's lack of morality:
>
> "But having said this, the Metaphysics of Quality goes on to say that
> science, the intellectual pattern that has been appointed to take over
> society, has a defect in it. The defect is that subject-object science has
> no provision for morals." (Lila, 22)
>
> Now with the revelation in e-mails that several renowned scientists have
> been fudging climate warming data we once again see evidence of
> Pirsig's truth. Because they lack a "provision for morals" in their
> worldview, it is all too easy for scientists to succumb to sinful behavior.
> Sure, they talk a good game about transparency, honesty and
> objectivity. But the historical record shows otherwise including, among
> other hoaxers, Mengele on medicine, Mead on Samoans, Kinsey on sex
> and Carlson on DDT.
>
> The current exposure of a data cover up in service of a political agenda
> should serve as a warning against blind acceptance of scientific
> authority so prevalent among today's intellectuals. In such circles, the
> language of "right" and "wrong" has been displaced by the phrase, "The
> research shows . . ."  But what if the research is fraudulent? The UN's
> answer: "Never mind."
>
> Because of  SOM's "defect" we're being led down the primrose path of
> environmentalism with potentially deadly consequences. We can only
> hope that the scientific community will clean up its own house. But don't
> bet on it. I suspect leftist ideology will again trump honesty.
>
> Regards,
> Platt
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