Thanks. "Not many" That's what I thought.

On 2 Dec 2009 at 7:54, X Acto wrote:

> Not many but I research the ideas that have meaning to me
> and instead of bitching about them from my armchair
> on my fat ass I actually get up and do somthing
> about it.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 10:47:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
> 
> What original ideas have you had, Ron?
> 
> 
> On 2 Dec 2009 at 7:23, X Acto wrote:
> 
> > Whose a environmentalist? I simply advocate using your own
> > mind and not the repeating of others ideas.
> > The problem is laziness..
> > I advocate getting off your duff and quit bitchin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 10:14:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
> > 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > Well said! Note how environmentalists plead for reasonableness while 
> > at the same time prominent climate scientists manipulate temperature 
> > data to support global warming and assure continuance of millions in 
> > climate-change funding.    
> > 
> > Platt
> > 
> > On 1 Dec 2009 at 21:07, markhsmit wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Environmentalists v Capitalists?  Hmm that is an interesting pair.
> > > I suppose capitalists is used in a derogatory fashion by those 
> > > who went out and bought a computer to join in the forum.
> > > 
> > > The problem that I have with some environmentalist is that they think
> > > they know the Truth.  They are righteous and believe everyone
> > > should believe the way they do otherwise they are less than human.
> > > In this way, they try to control things the way they think is right.  I 
> > > agree
> > > with Platt, that sometimes it is nice to see that they are just as devious
> > > and manipulative as the rest of the evil capitalists.  It is this 
> > > righteous
> > > sense of morality that many environmentalists have that somehow
> > > elevates them to a more religious level that is annoying.  It is another
> > > PC abuse.
> > > 
> > > Capitalists try to live well as best they know.  They are a little 
> > > excessive 
> > > perhaps and their infatuation with wealth is a bit annoying as well, but 
> > > to 
> > > each his own.  I am not going to force anyone to be a capitalist or
> > > a spiritualist, tell or force them how to live.  We are not going to be 
> > > allowed
> > > to buy plasma TVs in California now because of somebody's opinion.
> > > What is that all about?  Oh, saving the planet, but from what, our desire 
> > > to live
> > > as we want to?  Couldn't have that, we are so stupid.
> > > 
> > > We can no more control the fate of the planet than we can live under
> > >  a dictatorship.  It is all about control, not about concern.  Best thing
> > > that happened for environmentalism is the recession.  The deeper
> > > it goes, the more we save the planet.  Best if the US just imploded.
> > > Reasonable environmentalism?  That is an oxymoron.
> > > 
> > > IMHO
> > > 
> > > Mark
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