Hi Mark,

Well said! Note how environmentalists plead for reasonableness while 
at the same time prominent climate scientists manipulate temperature 
data to support global warming and assure continuance of millions in 
climate-change funding.    

Platt

On 1 Dec 2009 at 21:07, markhsmit wrote:

> 
> 
> Environmentalists v Capitalists?  Hmm that is an interesting pair.
> I suppose capitalists is used in a derogatory fashion by those 
> who went out and bought a computer to join in the forum.
> 
> The problem that I have with some environmentalist is that they think
> they know the Truth.  They are righteous and believe everyone
> should believe the way they do otherwise they are less than human.
> In this way, they try to control things the way they think is right.  I agree
> with Platt, that sometimes it is nice to see that they are just as devious
> and manipulative as the rest of the evil capitalists.  It is this righteous
> sense of morality that many environmentalists have that somehow
> elevates them to a more religious level that is annoying.  It is another
> PC abuse.
> 
> Capitalists try to live well as best they know.  They are a little excessive 
> perhaps and their infatuation with wealth is a bit annoying as well, but to 
> each his own.  I am not going to force anyone to be a capitalist or
> a spiritualist, tell or force them how to live.  We are not going to be 
> allowed
> to buy plasma TVs in California now because of somebody's opinion.
> What is that all about?  Oh, saving the planet, but from what, our desire to 
> live
> as we want to?  Couldn't have that, we are so stupid.
> 
> We can no more control the fate of the planet than we can live under
>  a dictatorship.  It is all about control, not about concern.  Best thing
> that happened for environmentalism is the recession.  The deeper
> it goes, the more we save the planet.  Best if the US just imploded.
> Reasonable environmentalism?  That is an oxymoron.
> 
> IMHO
> 
> Mark

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