Platt,

A corporation is an entity devoted to making profits and gaining power.  The
State is an entity devoted to gaining power.  They work quite well together
and when the corporate power controls the state, that seems as clear an
example of Fascism as any I can imagine.

I notice you decry the violence done in the name of past collectivism quite
a bit Platt.  So I ask you, if this government/corporate combine was able to
consolidate power gently, without death and violence but rather through
propoganda techniques, would it then be "ok"?

So far my favorite form of government I've ever experienced was at Burning
Man - which is about as libertarian as I can imagine.

But I could be wrong, I could be right, who knows?

John

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey John,
>
> Mussolini was widely admired by progressives in the first half of the 20th
> century because he established an all powerful state, holding to the
> assumption that any action of the state is justified to achieve the
> common good.
>
> "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the
> State"
>
> -- Benito Mussolini
>
> Of course  corporations fell under fascist state control either by
> nationalization or by regulation to the point where there is a distinction
> without a difference, the current push for cap & trade being an example
> of the latter.
>
> By contrast, right-wing conservatives favor limited government and free
> markets.
>
> Platt
>
>
> On 8 Dec 2009 at 10:28, John Carl wrote:
>
> > Fascism should be more properly called corporatism,  since it is the
> merger
> > of corporate and state power.
> >
> >
> > Benito Mussolini
>
> >
> >
> > I enjoyed a documentary film the other day and thought of dear Platt:
> >
> >
> > http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/american_ruling_class/
> >
> >
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
> change
> > the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has."
> >
> >
> > "Nobody has ever before asked the nuclear family to live all by itself in
> a
> > box the way we do. With no relatives, no support, we've put it in an
> > impossible situation."
> >
> >
> > Margaret Mead
>
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