Mati: ...The problem is then the intellectual level > becomes a free for all and basically anything you can think of. Based > on "encoding of experience into concepts" the intellectual level could > have well existed before the social level, which would defy the basic > principles of MOQ.
Steve: It is an MOQ assertion that social patterns predate concepts. Since concepts require language and since language is a social pattern it is clear that the social level must have existed before the intellectual level. Mati: >The point is when we discuss something that can > defined metaphysically has always come home to the S/O reality. When > you discuss something factually it requires a metaphysical basis of > understanding to provide it legitimacy. Truth that was socially > defined required the gods for an answer, Truth intellectually speaking > required the S/O platform. The problem was this platform was flawed > in which MOQ becomes the next better platform. > > The metaphysical path of "encoding of experience into concepts" is a > dead end that gets nowhere metaphysically speaking in the same manner > as SOM. Bo's simply points that out. Steve: You suppose that metaphysics is a fundamental intellectual pattern that all other intellectual patterns depend upon. I don't see it that way. I suppose that "simply thinking" (intellect) must have preceded "thinking about thinking" (metaphysics). Best, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
