Marksmith to Andre: Christians all over the world actually and factually believe that this is indeed the case. And, further more, the Bible is of course seen, not as a book full of stories ( if I may take the liberty, as a book full of fingers pointing to the moon!!) but as the actual word of God.
So Andre, you believe that it is not the word of God. Andre: Indeed I do not believe that the Bible contains the word of God, nor any word God has ever spoken. Mark: However, your posts sounds rather righteous, Andre: If you believe so... .they are not intended to be received that way...but the responsibility lies with the sender and not the receiver, isn't that so? Mark: ...as if you believe that your belief is correct. How did you get to this higher level? How is it that your belief somehow is more right than, say, a Christian's? Andre: I never said this, I just told you I do not believe what you claim I believe. Mark: In fact your belief is so blind, that you think that it is somehow outside the system of beliefs, Andre: Here we go again...I never said I believed..... . Mark: Once you realize the relative nature of beliefs, that is, that they are just opinions, you may see a little more. So, yes, the wine is the blood of Christ to those that believe it, and it is not to those who believe otherwise. Andre: You are getting warmer now... . Mark: There is no right or wrong, unless you believe you are God. But of course if your system of belief is that there isn't one, then you are something else that is all knowing, or not. There is a God and there isn't a God, both are correct. No need to take sides. Andre: Mark, I find this one of the most remarkeable instances of soliloque I have ever read. This respons is pure projection. Please read my entire post again AFTER you have read the relevant passage in ZMM and all of LILA. Cheers Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
