Hello to all participating in this thread: Steve said: Since you equate the MOQ with reality, fitting all of reality into the intellectual level is a problem for you. But accpording to the MOQ, the MOQ is not reality. Quality is reality. The Metaphysics of Quality is words about reality (Quality) rather than reality (Quality) itself.
Andre: I am not clear about something here. In an earlier post I said that the MoQ is the only (as far as I can ascertain) statement about reality which reflects the 'is' as opposed to the 'ought'. I received little reaction and as the saying in Holland goes: if you do not respond to the contrary you agree. Now, I fail to recognise (having read your reactions to Bodvar's post) that language, as a social PoV is somehow different from Reality (recognised by Pirsig as DQ/SQ). Isn't language part of the totality of DQ/SQ? How the heck is Dynamic change possible at all the levels (the lower two regarding our understanding of them) if, as some of you appear to imply, language is something different from this DQ/SQ? Is language NOT an interactive part of DQ/SQ? (How did the brujo effect change in the Zuni culture,,,by peeping through windows only???) It seems to me that SOM prevails when language is considered only as an expression ABOUT reality ( i.e a subjective expression about an objective ...other reality ...out there) and does not ( as I understand Pirsig) function as an active participant PoV IN the DQ/SQ process. Please help ignorant Andre. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
