That was my point Marsha, who wants to say forever ?
(Clue : Bo)
Ian

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Jan 13, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> Two points then Marsha,
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>> Why constrain those intellectual patterns to be based on SOM for ever ?
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> My answer is:  I don't have an answer.   How can I respond to a question 
> about forever?
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> Why constrain patterns into any level?   Forever?
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>> Metaphysics ? - Search me.
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> Okay.
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> Marsha
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>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Ian,
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>>> Well, in that case I would say the MoQ is a metaphysics that includes 
>>> within it four static levels of patterns of which the fourth (top) level is 
>>> comprised of intellectual patterns based on a  Subject/Object Metaphysics.  
>>>  I still like to hear an agreed upon definition of metaphysics.
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>>> Marsha
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>>> On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:26 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>>>> Greetings,
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>>>> This is how I understand it too.    But then one should understand it's 
>>>> analogues all the way down.
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>>>> My first question is:  Aren't we playing the metaphysical game?  Do we 
>>>> have an agreed upon definition of metaphysics?    Isn't metaphysics  an 
>>>> analogue?  All the way down?
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>>>> I don't think it's a waste of time, though, because I've learned lots in 
>>>> the category of: not this, not that.
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>>>> Marsha
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>>>> On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Horse wrote:
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>>>>> In a nutshell
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>>>>> Steven Peterson wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps much confusion would be cleared up if you keep in mind that
>>>>>> Quality is reality and the Metaphysics of Quality is words about
>>>>>> Quality. It is the philosophy of Robert M Pirsig.
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>>>>> safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but to skid in sideways, 
>>>>> chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, 
>>>>> totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"... Hunter S Thompson
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