Ian, Why constrain patterns into any level, for instance, the organic level?
Marsha On Jan 14, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: > That was my point Marsha, who wants to say forever ? > (Clue : Bo) > Ian > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: >> >>> Two points then Marsha, >>> >>> Why constrain those intellectual patterns to be based on SOM for ever ? >> >> My answer is: I don't have an answer. How can I respond to a question >> about forever? >> >> Why constrain patterns into any level? Forever? >> >> >> >>> Metaphysics ? - Search me. >> >> >> Okay. >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> Well, in that case I would say the MoQ is a metaphysics that includes >>>> within it four static levels of patterns of which the fourth (top) level >>>> is comprised of intellectual patterns based on a Subject/Object >>>> Metaphysics. I still like to hear an agreed upon definition of >>>> metaphysics. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:26 AM, MarshaV wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> This is how I understand it too. But then one should understand it's >>>>> analogues all the way down. >>>>> >>>>> My first question is: Aren't we playing the metaphysical game? Do we >>>>> have an agreed upon definition of metaphysics? Isn't metaphysics an >>>>> analogue? All the way down? >>>>> >>>>> I don't think it's a waste of time, though, because I've learned lots in >>>>> the category of: not this, not that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Horse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In a nutshell >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven Peterson wrote: >>>>>>> Perhaps much confusion would be cleared up if you keep in mind that >>>>>>> Quality is reality and the Metaphysics of Quality is words about >>>>>>> Quality. It is the philosophy of Robert M Pirsig. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving >>>>>> safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but to skid in >>>>>> sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used >>>>>> up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"... Hunter S >>>>>> Thompson >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _______________________________________________________________________ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
