Ok, I like that one, Ron. I vote yours. Experience is the edge of the known universe. Science is on a fool's errand and it's losing it's "edge".
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 7:52 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > Some may say that human experience is the edge of the universe > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 6:18:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ? > > Empty space is part of that expanding universe. > The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even emptiness. > The universe is that beyond which there is nothing - logically, by > definition. > > Ian > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Magnus Berg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Craig > > > >> [ Mary] > >>> > >>> What is beyond the edge of the Universe? > >>> This is what I want Pirsig to explain. > >> > >> If so, you are on a fool's errand. > >> Craig > > > > I wouldn't be so quick to judge. > > > > We know roughly how old the universe is and how large it is. We also know > > that it is expanding at an ever increasing rate. But into what? Does > science > > have an answer to that? Nothingness? > > > > If it is "nothingness", then this nothingness gives way to the > somethingness > > that is the universe when it is expanding. But then we have somehow > > incorporated the nothingness into our reality, and we have also expanded > the > > universe to infinity. But only a part of that universe is the > somethingness > > in which we and other stuff can exist. > > > > If the expanding universe is *not* replacing some other stuff occupying > the > > space that it is expanding into, then you need to explain how that is > done. > > That would be a completely new process to science, right? > > > > I can go on for quite a while longer, but what I want to say is that the > > question is far from foolish. At the very least, it will result in > another > > question. > > > > Magnus > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
