Hi All, Ian to Arlo's little comment set this in motion and now that its been chewed around for awhile it is all beginning to make sense. I refer to the title of this thread I started very recently. I have come to conclude that we are looking at the wrong section in Pirsig's letter to Paul Turner, the section I posted to Ian and Arlo. Here it is:
'What complicates all this discrimination between intellectual and social thought are intellectual patterns that are no longer intellectually valid but are sustained by the social traditions that they created long ago. Religious beliefs are in this class. Classical physics is in this class. I think much of the opposition to the MOQ falls in this class as well'. Of course!!! S/O logic has been superseded. It was based upon Aristotelian logic, used by Newton for scientific purposes and adopted by his friend John Locke who's philosophy is still visible and felt today (e.g the Americam Declaration, and the Constitution). However, science has moved on from these and discredited most of their assumptions. The huge influence of these two (and countless others) is still felt today because they are sustained by social traditions but their intellectual labours have become invalid! The SOL/SOM idea has been relegated to and is sustained by the social level. The intellectual level is no longer dominated by Bodvar's 'intellect'. It is free from its tentacles. You little beauty! No wonder. It is still visible and audible everyday. It is all around us. But the intellectual level has moved on. Social change always takes a little longer (unless by force or revolution of course). Some of you have probably been yawning all along saying yea, we knew all this already. Okay, so I am a bit slow! Now Bodvar, what do you reckon? I stand corrected of course. Cheers Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
