John: > Andre to Krimel: > The notion of 'self' is an intellectual construction. >
John: Also Wrong. The self is obviously a socially-created construction, arising in higher beings than slime mold, and lower than intellectual humans. Wanna guess? Need a hint? Forgot already? Just pay attention to those handy Mnemonic devices carried by the female mammals for your clue. Pay close attention and enlightenment will come, I'm sure. Mr. Pirsig: 'The MoQ, as I understand it, denies any existence of a 'self' that is independent of inorganic,biological,social or intellectual patterns. There is no 'self' that contains these patterns. These patterns contain the self. This denial agrees with both religious mysticism and scientific knowledge. In Zen, there is reference to 'big self' and 'small self'. Small self is the patterns. Big self is Dynamic Quality. (Annot.29, LC) Andre: I stand corrected by the man himself. Cheers Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
