[John]
And I emphiasize this point to you Krimel, that the world as we empirically
find it points to evolutionary development headed towards something bigger
than us.  The way we symbolize, analogize, express and compare our
realizations of this "bigger than us" is a GOOD process, not a bad one.

[Krimel]
Look I know my ass has been expanding with age but last time I looked
outside, the world is already bigger than I am. Unless you just enjoy
sounding pretentiously, arrogantly ignorant like Platt, read the stuff I
recommended to Craig and watch the program on NOVA. You really don't have
the background to pretend you are above that sort of thing.

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