On Jan 25, 2010, at 6:49:59 AM, "Arlo Bensinger" <[email protected]> wrote: [Mary] The point he makes is that science is pretty good at figuring out the "how", but is clueless about figuring out the "why".
[Arlo] I'm going to disagree with you, slightly, Mary. The MOQ, I hold, would say that "why" (as you're using it differentiated from "how") is a "mu" question. At BEST, what can only ever be offered in response to "why" is an analogy. Even the MOQ is an analogy, a "finger pointing at the moon". The MOQ can no more "figure out the why" than SOM, but it simply puts that question into a larger (Buddhistic) perspective. In short, the MOQ does NOT answer the question "does a dog have a Buddha nature?", but it says that asking such a question itself is perhaps a fool's quest, one that will only diminish both the asker and the answerer. I don't think the MOQ offers any better answer as to "why evolution occurs" than science, but I would say the MOQ understood properly treats such a question as "mu". Saying "it occurs because it was better to occur than not" is hardly a powerful, or even meaningful, answer. We know it occurred, science can fill in all the hows and the timeline. Theism may try to answer the "whys" but does so from a perspective that also misses the "mu". Theism is as "blind" to the Void as is "science". [Mark] Hi Arlo, Yes, why? The answers given are non ending, they simply propose a cause before but never ultimate. The answer satisfies if only the preceding cause is required. Theism is as blind as science, especially when theism is dogmatic as taught by a church which tries to explain why. The difference as I see it, is science is seen by the brain as SOM, where as true spirituality is not logical but is felt by the heart and is Quality. I am not pushing either of these since it doesn't matter, it is just my opinion. Maybe some day I will get some theism. One can only hope. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
