[Ham said]
But I was puzzled by what seemed to me an ingenuous comment: "If you base 
your world-view on SOM, then value is just 'whatever you like'."  I assume 
you are the same Mary who ends evey post with the axiom "The most important 
thing you will ever make is a realization."  Isn't "what you like" your 
realization of value?  Indeed, how can we know value other than as a 
realization?  Value-sensibility, as I have defined it, IS primary 
realization.  While this may be the SOM view, it also happens to be the 
perspective of human beings living in and interacting with a physical world.

Hello Ham,

Yes, it is me, and I fail to see a conflict with the two ideas.  The problem
I have with SOM is that it presupposes a subject and an object.  My point
was simply that science (SOM taking its highest form) has no conceptual nook
in which to put value.  For a scientist, value is indeed "whatever you
like".  It can't be objectively measured in scientific terms, so it is
discounted.

Mary

- The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.

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