Bo > It's INTELLIGENCE you speak about. Intellect is no biological or > social anything, it's a STATIC LEVEL, when will you realize that? > There weren't any intellect before the level as little as there were life > before the biological level Get it?
No, it is not INTELLIGENCE I speak about it is INTELLECT and there is no INTELLECT level. There is however an INTELLECTUAL level and it was created by the INTELLECT. Your failure to understand or accept that intelligence, intellect and intellectual are three different words with three different meanings is what I don't get. If RMP were here he wouldn't get it either. He only says this in about a 100 different ways in Lila. But you're a ZaMM guy, I forgot. > I wonder if you are "difficult" Your damn right I am. Because your interpretation wrong, has been so since the start, is confusing an already confusing issue, and if integrated into MoQ would prove fatal to an already unstable system. You need to paste this on a wall and stay there staring at it until you do get it ! [Lila pg 140] "Within this evolutionary relationship it is possible to see that intellect has functions that predate science and philosophy. The intellect's evolutionary purpose has never been to discover an ultimate meaning of the universe. That is a relatively recent fad. Its historical purpose has been to help a society find food, detect danger, and defeat enemies. It can do this well or poorly, depending on the CONCEPTS IT INVENTS for this purpose" And the "concept OR IDEA OR PATTERN OF VALUE [that the intellect] INVENTS" after thousands of years of evolution, according to the MoQ and RMP, " says intellect is a higher level of evolution than society; therefore, it is a more moral level than society" Lila pg 137 Now if you can explain to me how any "intellect" invents something before it exists, as you have claimed over and over, I will indeed accept your position. TO RECAP: THE INTELLECT PREDATES SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY. THE INTELLECT INVENTS IDEAS. GET IT? SOME, BUT NOT ALL, IDEAS MAY RISE TO THE INTELLECTUAL LEVEL. AND THOSE FEW IDEAS THAT SURVIVE THE RARIFIED AIR UP THERE ARE THE GOOD ONES. UNTIL BETTER ONES COMES ALONG. But, this is were we are,have been for years, "Now we¹ve a real intellectual impasse. Our reason, which is supposed to make things more intelligible, seems to be making them less intelligible, and when reason thus defeats its own purpose something has to be changed in the structure of our reason itself." ZaMM pg 75 ...and most likely will remain. Dave Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
