Hello John, > wtf?? reason is objective and emotions are subjective? > That's considered "advanced" at Oxford? Man, I'm not sending my > daughter > there, even if they do have cool shoes. > > Reason is a balanced weighing of differing factors, including the > emotional > and all emotions have some reasoned assumption as > their basis. Therefore, the two cannot be separated quite so easily. > British Objectivism sucks! (Sorry lu.) > [Mary Replies] As the resident expert on emotions (the token female) I take umbrage at your statement, John. Let's face it, men have only a tangential connection to their emotions. It is not allowed in Western culture. You have only two socially acceptable outlets for masculine emotion, verbal violence or physical violence. That's it. I hate that, but I did not make the rules.
It is absolutely untrue that "all emotions have some reasoned assumption as their basis." Nope. Most have no relationship to reason at all. In my experience there are only two things that elicit emotion in us: fear of loss (including loss of face, loss of loved ones, loss of 100 other kinds of things - all related in some way to EGO) or a threat to something we believe ourselves to believe (about ourselves, the world at large, or others in particular). Perhaps you will notice that I include only negative emotions in this? That is because negative emotions are far more powerful and long-lasting than the strongest positive ones. All emotions are based in the Biological Level, including love. They cannot be invoked and cannot be assuaged by reason. Reason is powerless in the face of strong emotion. At best all we can do is use reason to temper the same emotion the next time - but never THIS time. Emotion must be respected and anyone who doesn't respect their own emotions is asking for trouble. You can "pay me now or pay me later" is a good analogy for emotion. If not resolved, they never go away, they just get worse - stronger the next time the subject comes up. I challenge you guys to convince me this is not true. Who among you has not experienced a long running disagreement with your significant other? Grins, Mary Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
