On 2/26/10 9:45 AM, "Horse" <[email protected]> wrote: [snip] And here's another couple of mathematical concepts that have no corresponding reality: 0 square root of -1 and there are a whole bunch of others, too numerous to mention, that are purely abstract, exist only at the intellectual level and are neither subject or object! Horse
Hi Horse, [Joe] Imho The logic of DQ perception, e.g., evolution, is not negated by the logic of SQ conception e.g., mathematics. Apples and oranges, rub your nose in it! The logic for the truth in perception is DQ experience in DQ metaphor/analogy. Mathematical logic is a logic of SQ which is different from a metaphorical/analogical logic of perception (e.g. he says/she says). In perception it takes two to tango. 0 and the square root of -1 is beyond mathematical logic but not perceptive imagination. Joe > Spot on Arlo > > On 26/02/2010 14:01, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote: >> Math is a fine example of this, where "2" went from iconic picto-glyph >> "count" >> marks to represent concrete iterations of, say, "cattle" to an abstract >> "number" manipulated independently of any cattle (or anything else) which >> paved >> the way for algebra, geometry and calculus. >> >> And this fits precisely with what Pirsig says about the intellectual level >> being the skilled manipulation of symbols with no corresponding reality. >> > > And here's another couple of mathematical concepts that have no > corresponding reality: > > 0 > > square root of -1 > > and there are a whole bunch of others, too numerous to mention, that are > purely abstract, exist only at the intellectual level and are neither > subject or object! > > Horse Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
