dmb, no, no, you misunderstood me again.
John replied:Well that's not the way I see it. If your point is, "John is a > stupid theist and should be excluded from the MoQ" I don't see any real way > to respond to that except to close down. ..But that's not a logical > argument, it's a reason for avoiding a logical argument. And that's what > I've perceived from you in the main. > > dmb says: > You don't see anyway to respond except to close down? And you think my > point is to exclude you and make you feel stupid? If I'm trying to avoid a > logical argument, then why did I walk you through mine and why do I > repeatedly ask you to respond to it? > > When I said, "that's not the way I see it" I meant I have no recollection of you walking me through your argument. I have no recollection OF any argument you made. I have no idea what your argument or point even is and my perception of you prefering to shut me down and shut me out rather than respond to MY arguments is the strongest feature in my mind of our discussion, and any attempt at excluding me from this forum I can't argue against logically, only in "soap opera" fashion. Which I don't think is entirely invalid. Think of Pirsig's dispute with the Chairman in ZAMM, that was more a soap opera than an argument too. Fascinating stuff tho. > Well, if you don't really want to discuss the issues then what's the point? > This soap opera nonsense is getting old real fast. Either respond to the > substance of my remarks or don't respond at all, okay, you big hairy drama > queen? Lighten up. Have a drink. Get over yourself. If you'd like to play > this game like a sane grown up, that's cool. Otherwise, I just can't bear > it. > > Boy. Talk about drama queens. And those pics of you at the first MoQ conference show you to be pretty hairy, but that's probably not the fashion now. Personally, I shave and cut my hair in the summer, and grow a winter coat when it's cold. I'm a simple beast, I am. I would LOVE to respond to the substance of your remarks.... If only you would kindly provide some instead of the repeated assertion that you already have. I seek, but I don't find. I listen. And listen. And wait. And am rewarded with the Sound of Silence, interspersed with vague cluckings. As for "sane grownups", by the usual understandings they are the ones that don't play games. They're too serious. Sorry if you just can't bear it or its not fun for you anymore. What do you want me to say? Would it help if I reminded you that metaphysics ain't for sissies? That phrase helps me to buck up and face the music when my gumption gets down. Maybe it'll do you some good too. John the big hairy soap opera drama queen. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
