u condescending bastard dan love ya --- On Thu, 11/3/10, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Dan Glover <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > To: [email protected] > Received: Thursday, 11 March, 2010, 1:27 PM > Hello everyone > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Louise Pryor <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The only person I can change is myself... BUT, *I* > cannot change me all by > > myself. > > > > The only way I can change, grow, become better, is by > listening to the input > > of others, people I like and respect, sure, but also > those I don't care for > > might also have something useful to add. I can hear it > all, and hold on to > > that which is good, useful, profitable, and discard > that which is not. > > Dan: > The thing about becoming better is there is no way to do it > other than > doing it. I don't need to hear anything from anyone. I just > know. And > so do you whether you care to admit it or not. > > > >Lu: > > It seems that on a metaphysical discussion group, you > would find the > > majority with this view - openness to discourse. It is > threatening to most > > folks out in the world, to have their ideology and > worldview challenged. > > Here, though, it should be a safe place to bring it > ALL up. A LOT of people > > believe in a god of some sort. To just chuck out any > conversation including > > allusions to deity or theism is to exclude a lot of > interesting discussion. > > Dan: > > What a load of crap. A lot of people watch television too. > What does > that tell you about a lot of people? And I'm supposed to > listen to > them? Why? And I'm sorry to say it but I find most people > dull and > decidedly uninteresting, that's one reason I hang out > here. > > >Lu: > > Just the words "god, deity, theism" seems to cause > instant panicked > > reactions, a whole lifetime of prejudice is married to > those words. But I > > assure you that the attachments I have to them differs > from yours as much as > > I differ from you, but what I also know, that most > "atheists" or > > "anti-theists" don't seem to (or it isn't apparent > from what I have observed > > here, anyway), is that if we actually took the time > and effort to ask the > > pertinent questions, and to really listen to each > other, we would find > > ourselves closer than we might think, and we would all > go away from the > > conversation richer. > > Dan: > > My oldest daughter got married about four years ago. Her > and her new > husband lived in Utah at the time. They invited me to the > wedding. I > dislike flying so I drove for two days to get there. Now... > imagine if > you will being told you can't attend your daughter's > wedding because > you're not a Mormon. Non-believers are not allowed inside > their > temple. > > So. Lucky me got to attend the civil ceremony the next day > at the > local community center. And my in-laws treated me like I > was some kind > of low-life. They kept calling each other "brother" and > "sister" while > all the time ignoring me. Christ. They wouldn't even look > me in the > eye. I did a prayer for all of them in that afternoon's > meditation. > > Theism leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People start > believing they > know best and whoever disagrees, they first try to convert > them. That > failing, they shun the non-believers. Name me one theistic > religion > that doesn't, please. They're all the same in that regard. > Atheists > are nearly as bad. Don't even get me started with that. > > > > > > > Lu - the wife of a discouraged man. *sigh* > > Dan: > > Well, from the look of things your man has gotten over his > discouragement, what with dmb playing nice and all. I'm > glad. And > don't worry. I won't be able to post here again any time > soon. > Priorities, don't you know. > > Be Good, > > Dan > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
