Marha said to Andre:
The mystical doesn't need to be accepted on faith, it can be
directly experienced to various degrees.  Even the most basic
direct experience can wipe away much of the fog.

Andre said:
Marsha, the 'mystical' IS direct experience, it is religious.

Marsha:
Yes, the 'mystical' IS direct experience, it is religious.  It is a
binding together... the state before the unbound, before subjects and
objects, before the division.

If you think my words represented something incorrectly, okay.

Andre now:
Yes Marsha, please stay on track.This is not what you stated. You
threw in the word 'can' in reference to mystical and direct
experience. Pirsig uses the terms to denote the same thing. Big
difference in the context within which we are discussing.

My thoughts are with you and please take care.

Andre
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