Hi Ham, On 13 Mar 2010 at 13:36, Ham Priday wrote:
> Poetic license aside, becoming cannot be outside of time and space, since > "being" itself is demensional. Take away space and time and there is no > being. Basic assumptions. I think you're saying that "being" depends on the "beings" of time and space. Of course, this begs the question of what conditions are necessary for the beings of time and space? I presume this where your "Essence" makes its appearance. > "Becoming" is the process whereby relational existence occurs (or is > perceived). As human beings, you and I are sensible agents "becoming" aware > of otherness. What we value of this otherness is experienced as "being". I take it then that "being" in addition to the above conditions requires "sensible agents," or more specifically, "value sensitive agents" and "otherness." So we have the following conditions necessary for being, according to Ham: Time Space Value Otherness Sensitive Agents By comparison, Pirsig sees only one of the above conditions necessary for being, namely, Value. And he wrote a book, Lila, explaining why he believes that to be the case. The meta-theoretical principle of Occam's Razor says in effect: "When competing hypotheses are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selection of the hypothesis that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities while still sufficiently answering the question." (Wikipedia) Perhaps Occam's Razor explains as well as anything my preference for Pirsig's metaphysics over yours, always with the knowledge that I could be wrong. Best regards, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
