Point proved. Quotes from Pirsig to substantiate claims? None. Personal attacks. Repeated.
On 14 Apr 2010 at 15:49, Arlo Bensinger wrote: > [Platt] > No surprise here. The usual personal attack. > > [Arlo > "Personal attack"? Too funny!! > > Let's see if we can find this... > > [Arlo's first paragraph] > Lest someone get the wrong impression, Pirsig did NOT, as your post > implies, champion ignorance. Indeed, Pirsig has given his full > support to both Ant McWatt and DMB; both working to bring the MOQ > into the Academy. Anyone wishing to purchase the Pirsig DVD's (from > Ant McWatt's site) will see first hand the endorsements Pirsig gives > to these academics. Your accusation that they are involved in > "philosopholoy" is ridiculous. > > [Arlo adds] > No "personal attack" there. But the first of my two substantive > points (which you've evaded - make a note of this). > > Let's go on... > > [Arlo's second paragraph] > Bo exemplifies consistency in his determination to promote his own > interpretation of the MOQ, which is fine and commendable. But, as > Horse pointed out, it is important for newcomers to know that Pirsig > himself denies outright Bo's SOL interpretation. When Bo says "no one > is talking about Pirsig's ideas", what he should say is "no one talks > about my personal revision of Pirsig's ideas", which is fine and > probably mostly true. > > [Arlo adds] > Still no "personal attack", but the second substantive point (which > you've evaded - make a note of this too). > > Let's go on... > > [Arlo's third paragraph] > It's no surprise to anyone who has been around for a while, but its > worth pointing out to the newcomers that there is a very pronounced > anti-intellectual sentiment here, mostly from you. It is no surprise > even the simplest of posts you submit almost HAVE to contain some > inane right-wing, anti-intellectual jab at "statists", "leftists", > "the media" and those evil "perfessers" in the "commie academy" > (basically Limbaugh's Boogeymen list). > > [Arlo adds] > I suppose this is what you're whining about, but its hardly a > "personal attack". Anyone can at any time go back and look at the > archives and see that your posts always contain some inane right-wing > nonsense, usually tirades about whatever the boogeyman du jour of > talk-radio is. That's not a personal attack, that's just observation. > Indeed, since you're original post was nothing but an > anti-intellectual condemnation of "academics" (which I've answered in > my first substantive point), this is just providing context. > > Let's go on... > > [Arlo's fourth/final paragraph] > I don't know "what Pirsig hoped for", but again since those he > chooses to interact directly with are your "evil academics", I'd have > to say it would seem as if Pirsig endorses more the work being done > by the likes of Ant and DMB then the sophomoric, anti-intellectual > "random thoughts" others post here. > > [Arlo adds] > No personal attacks here. Just the supported observation that while > none of us can know for sure if the list is "what Pirsig hoped for", > we can look at who and how Pirsig has supported/endorsed over the > years, and it's been the two biggest academics among us; Ant and DMB. > Given that, I'd say that "academic talk" on the list is hardly > something Pirsig would fret. > > If you want to claim that my alluding to your "random thoughts" being > sophomoric and anti-intellectual is a "personal attack", well then > boo hoo. I'm happy to point this out in detail if you wish. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
