Mary

On April 4th you posed these two questions:

> Question 1: What is the Intellectual Level, and specifically, what makes it
> different from the Social Level?
> Question 2: What is Subject-Object Logic?

The second is easy it is a theory developed by Bo that the MoQ's
intellectual level is exclusively the domain of reasoning based on the
premise that objectivity, as opposed to subjectivity, is the sole source of
valuable intellectual patterns.  It has been rejected by RMP and many in
this group as counterproductive to the whole MoQ project in so much as it
essentially limits human reasoning to the very subject/object metaphysics
that Pirsig railed against in both his books.

The first question we have all tried to answer since the discussion group
started years and years ago. I just remembered another thinker's work which
might have some hope of helping us out of this dilemma. It is the four
volume set by Christopher Alexander called "The Nature of Order."

The intellect is the human power to order ,make value judgments, about our
experiences individually. The intellectual level is mankind's joint effort
to come to some consensus on the order of reality. To order the patterns of
value, the qualities, we experience.

Dave


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