Marsha to Horse ;

I still understand the Intellectual Level to represent a formalized
subject/object (SOM) manipulation of abstract symbols, whether
they are concepts such as justice, neutrinos, or energy.

Andre:
Direct experience formalizes nothing Marsha. The MOQ invites the analysis of 
your own experience. Remember in ZMM the relationship between the mechanic and 
the motorcycle? The subject here and the motorcycle there and never the twain 
shall meet ( in SOM!!!). The MOQ allows you a different, more empirically real 
experience whereby the 'distance' between subject and object, in the direct 
experience is nullified. The gap is maintained by Bodvar's SOL and this view is 
detrimental to the MOQ.

Christ, I thought you had learned something from Pirsig, James, Krishnamurti, 
Najarguna, Buddhism etc,etc!...and your own meditative practices. The farther 
you go away from DQ the more divisions you'll encounter.


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