[Bo]
Their strife with Plato was the budding intellectual level's subjectivism's versus its objectivism that still haunts intellect ...in its SOM capacity role!!!!!

[Arlo]
So you think the conflict of ZMM was between subjectivism and objectivism, even if Pirsig has said quite clearly that what the Sophists were teaching was NOT subjectivism? How much do you have to rewrite in order to make your SOL palatable, Bo?

[Bo]
Intellect was not infested with SOM, rather the S/O value fossilizes into a S/O METAPHYSICS !!!

[Arlo]
See... its these type of utterly ridiculous statements, necessary to support your SOL, that make it a failure. What else could an "S/O value" fossilize into except an "S/O metaphysics"? Happily, Pirsig and others have seen that the "S/O value" is merely one species of "intellect".

[Bo]
Arlo may be small fry here, it's DMB who is the big roadblock.

[Arlo]
I actually take this as a compliment. But the irony is quite funny. In any event, I'd rather be a "small fry" who gets it, than a baked potato who does not.


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