> Platt to Andre: > > '...S/O began to preserve social values and then took off > on purposes of its own, becoming the intellectual level (better named the > individual level because it because it opposes collectivist values.) > > Andre: > Thanks for clarifying this Platt. I should have known better. I thought the > intellectual level held values such as human rights, freedom of speech, > freedom of assembly, of travel, trial by jury, habeas corpus, government by > consent. And these are not 'collectivist values' then? >
>From Merriam-Webster: "collectivism -- 1 : a political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution; also : a system marked by such control" In other words, communism/socialism, opposed to individual rights, also condemned by Pirsig for blocking DQ. . "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate (the) grave evils (of capitalism), namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society." Albert Einstein, Why Socialism?, 1949 > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
