Good point, Andre, On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]>wrote:
> Platt to Krimel, All: > > > The relevance of the MOQ is clear. Science has a defect. "The defect is > that subject-object science has no provision for morals. > > Andre: > And you are according it the highest (intellect)ual status...and defend it > to the tooth! That's exactly what they're doing. But you have to admit, science IS the highest (intellectual) status in MoQ terms. They're just following what is correct. Too bad that what is correct, is wrong. "Intellect" is a faulty label for the creative symbolic manipulations which guide social patterns. The connotations (!) of intellect in our society exclude Art, which Pirsig himself accords the higher archy. And Science devoid of Art is Not the highest human "knowing" and there is nothing more to say to any who thinks otherwise. By what art OR science can the scientifically- oriented, be made to realize the value of art? An ongoing question, but only for those who are brain-pliable enough to keep asking. And as Matt so eloquently pointed out, there is resistance to accepting any other's viewpoints on a forum dedicated to arguing, and certainly enough ambiguity and misunderstanding in the language we use, that none need ever "lose" by admitting another's viewpoint. Interesting. Good thing we have conversation, or I'd think the whole mess in need of revision! > Seems to me you are just as much a part of the problem as that which you > condemn and sneer at. > > Well I don't believe this was aimed at me specifically, but I'll own it. Any formulation of self pretty much guarantees that what you say is true. I'd be glad to be proved wrong! > [Andre, speaking from a SOM prison]... (as condemned by you and Bodvar). > > > It is true also, that we all dwell in a SOM prison. I guess some guy living in a hut on a mountain can escape the dominant paradigm, but since we all have internet access, I make assumptions about the common worlds in which we dwell. And "A SOM Prison" sounds like a pretty accurate description to me. I agree completely. John the agreeable (even tho he just got fired today) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
